1Big'n
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Just because I can doesn't mean I will, I was trying to make a point. What I want to do is up to me and me alone, it's not up for a vote. I have common sense, respect, and morals, but I will not let you take away my freedom of choice because you have ran across a person or two without any. My suggestion to you is if you purchased a house on a six lane divided road and you don't like noise maybe you should move, it may be easier than trying to regulate the amount of noise a tractor trailer, car, motorcycle, back pack blower, weed eater, lawn mower, hedge trimmer or anything else that makes noise. I live on the Chesapeake Bay and it's very peaceful here, I can sit on my front porch all week after 8:00 PM and it's so quiet I can hear a car on a road that is over 3 miles away, but every weekend in the summer I know I'm going to hear boats, jetskis, and airplanes do their stall tests over the bay, but I pay no attention to them, it's the sound of people out enjoying themselves and their families on the weekend and it doesn't bother me a bit, I worked hard all week and now it's my turn if I choose. People have made their living off of these waters for centuries and now people are moving here and building million dollar homes and calling the county because their neighbor has crab pots on their dock and they don't want to look at them, but they want to eat crabs and they want them cheaper than anyone else too. I say move back where you came from, it has nothing to do with being considerate.
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92lowrider
Bothell, Wa.
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That about says it all!
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King of the Road
Union County, NJ
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The riding season in Montana was a Tuesday last year, wasn't it?
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Payloader
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And you made a point. I wanted to make a point too. I agree with your last post Big. I am talking about the attitude that says, "Fcuk You, I will do whatever I want no matter the consequences to you!" If bikes didn't go racing around neighboorhoods at 2am with drag pipes this wouldn't be as big an issue as it is. Beleive me, I've seen it happen. I used to hang out with some guys that parked in a church lot Friday nights until about 10pm. Then with full knowledge that we were in a residential 'hood, they would tear up and down this alley, and the street. They would rev up their bikes, let them run for a while before leaving ect. Then get mad at the guy, who lived in the house right on the alley, 25 feet from the lot they were in, when he would come out and ask that we please be quiet. We have the same type of problem in Denver. People are buying these high end, expensive lofts downtown. Then complain because of the noise. People move to a specific place, then try to change it to accomodate them. That is the American way. We'll move downtown because it's the trendy thing to do right now, but when we don't get all the things we had in the 'burbs (quiet, less traffic, no drunken brawls) we will try to make it the way we want. I get all that, but the loud pipe thing could have been avoided if some a$$ holes had just been considerate. Our government track record is that if people don't do the supposed "right" thing on their own, then they will impose manners, and morals. That's the way it is. Denver has not, to my knowledge, enforced the pipe ban in the city. They made the law, those people are placated, the cops don't enforce it, but we are aware they could, so maybe we exercise a little more thoughtfulness.
Actually, you can ride about 4 months. Add maybe 2 more with the right clothing. I live in denver, we can ride all year. What a difference 600 miles makes.
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VStarman
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1Big'n wrote:I think that's bull, we've had enough liberties taken away from us it's time to stand up for individuality, after all isn't that what riding a Harley is all about. At every corner we are being told what to do, don't smoke within 25 feet of the office door or at the ball park, or in your own condo. Wear a helmet, put on a seat belt, pay $3.49 for diesel, and 3.29 for gas, where does it end. My deceased grandfather had a foot long cigar that he smoked everywhere, and I have a 3" Salem and a pair of Rineharts, so wake up because I'll be ROARING down your street one night soon at 3:00 am. and don't pi$$ me off or I just might remove the baffles and circle back later! I think that should stir the pot sufficiently.
You know you're no different than the guy next to you, at the stop light, or parked outside your house, with his boom-boom car stereo shaking the place so bad you can't even hold a conversation with the person next to you.... Hmmmmm, does that piss you off??? Well then how do you think people feel about your loud bike with all the baffles removed???
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1Big'n
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I've said enough, if you don't already know what's going on in this country than I can't help you. It's forced down my throat every day because I live 25 minutes from the Bush White House, so every morning it's in the paper and on the TV news 4 times a day. If you don't want to choose your own pipes, don't worry our government will choose them for you. But I will go down fighting not bent over and greased up. That's all for me folks.
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Payloader
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I'm all about freedom of choice, but with choice comes responsability.
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VStarman
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Payloader wrote:I'm all about freedom of choice, but with choice comes responsability.
Yup, that's right... Denver passed their motorcycle noise ordinance because of homeowner's complaining of motorcycles tearing around on their residential streets... Homeowners pay property taxes... Hmmmm.. Me thinks the city council buttered their own bread... and wisely so!
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10ecjazzman
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I understand 1Bign's point to a degree. Especially when folks move in to an area and try to change it to fit them. We have given up many freedoms in the past few years in the name of safety,security and political nonsense. I just don't see loud pipes as something worth amending the constitution for. Big'n says he has common sense and respect; I would like to think most of us do as well. If thats the case, the new laws won't change how we ride. No burnouts by the nursing home on Sunday morning. Ease in from bike night at 1:00 am. I don't see this being enforced long if at all. The biggest damage that could come from these laws is if it divides us as riders. I have several friends that have straight pipes. I still ride with them..just not behind them! I hate to see riders slamming each other over this. Some cagers do that enough already. Like it or not , we are in this mess together, straight pipes or stock.
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VStarman
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I don't mind straight pipes...
But I strenuously object, and so do lots of innocent people,
to the bikers that remove all the baffles from their pipes...
If they were castrated, they would be less likely to remove all their baffles from their pipes!
I don't want to ride with them.. I'm embarassed by their presence.. I don't want to be around them... and they are the reason why these laws are being passed which infringe on my freedom to ride the way I want to!
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