badbird
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This topic has come up on the Sturgis message board I post on. Everyone there is for putting the guy away for a really long time. This is only one in a long history of speeding, reckless driving or alcohol (i believe) run ins the guy has had. From the reports I have of people that live in SD and the posts from the other board I believe the guy is a real AHOLE.
My vote goes to remove him from the hall of fame and lock his sorry butt up for several years.
Ya keep doing something wrong sooner or later ya got to pay for it. A poor guy on a Harley already has in this case with his life.
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spero_meliora
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WHAT DOES BEING A RECKLESS DRIVER HAVE TO DO WITH BEING IN THE HALL OF FAME? IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE THINGS HE HAS DONE IN THE PAST.
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jrel85
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The next question that I have is what has he really done for motorcyling and/or the rally. It looks to me that he was just someone to stand up and say, yes I love the money that you spend, keep it coming.
A removal from the hall of fame would say that motorcyclists do not appreciate what he has done and do not believe him to be a spokesman or advocate for the sport.
Also, in response to an earlier posting by spero, I do believe that it is his right to hire a lawyer but do not believe that he should get off on charges as he has in the past just because he "knows the right people." Hopefully this will be a landmark case in the state of South Dakota and will move the state away from the "good ol boy" mentality that says that if you know people you can get off in SD.
As for my reason for posting, no, if he would have killed a pedestrian I would not be posting because it would then have nothing to do with motorcycling.
One of the reasons my family and myself love motorcycling is because of the people. We have ridden in many different states and with many different groups but one thing we can count on is the friendliness and willingness to help out issued by fellow motorcyclists.
I don't know about everyone else but I still wave when I see another rider. I still stop when I see a fellow rider having a problem. It is due to this unity that I believe that my original posting presents a valid and relevant cause.
With that being said I believe that spero has a right to feel the way that he/she does but I also feel that that was not the way that I want motorcyclists to be potrayed. A person whom is in any hall of fame is there to be a role model for those involved in the sport and Bill is not a role model that I want.
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spero_meliora
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my problem is not with him going to prison. my problem is not ending the old boys club. my problem is not with rider unity. my problem is with all of you trying to erase motorcycle history. he is, and was a motorcycle icon, to some degree. as for a role model, look at the boxing hall of fame. a name that will stand out to almost any one is going to be mike tyson. a rapist mad dog. would you suggest that boxers try and get rid of him? of course not. where would it end?
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badbird
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Quote:my problem is with all of you trying to erase motorcycle history. he is, and was a motorcycle icon, to some degree.
Please explain this. I know nothing of him being an icon.
Was he a bike builder?
Was he a biker?
Has he ever sat on a motorcycle?
Simply being installed in the hall of fame for being an elected offical is a far cry from being an icon.
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spero_meliora
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it is possible to help people without actually participating. if someone donates 10 gajillion dollars to a tennis foundation, they will probably end up in the tennis hall of fame, assuming there is one.
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badbird
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Quote:it is possible to help people without actually participating.
I agree with this. If Jack had simply not particpated in driving in excess of the speed limit and running a stop sign he would have indeed helped the poor dead biker. He would have helped the guy stay alive.
If you don't have any proof of his great contributions towards sturgis or the biker lifestyle then I think I would just call in the dogs and whiz on the fire. I would say the biker icon slant is dead.
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spero_meliora
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slant? somone thought it was a good idea to put him there in the first place. if you look on their website, you will see they list, and thank him in the sponsor section of the website. sponsor. it is a place of honour for helping the museum in coming into existance. wihtout him, perhaps it wouldn't be there at all.
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badbird
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spiro I see ya from the north side of that little border above us so you may do things different there. In the usa a politican could be in the museum simply by showing up at the ribbon cutting the day it opened. I don't know for sure but I wouldn't go out on a limb saying the museum wouldn't have been there without him. I find that hard to believe. If he helped it's most likely just to ensure his re-election.
Look if my mother or brother did the same he did in killing the biker I would say they should pay the price. I would feel real bad but if you do the crime you should do the time. It doesn't really matter that the dead guy was on a harley or a john deere tractor he's dead and jacklow is responsible.
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spero_meliora
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have any of you actually read his bio. at the sturgis website. all it says is that in the 70's and 80's, he helped make the sturgis rally what it is. who of you can say what he did?
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